Roberto Vecchioni, songwriter, professor, writer (his latest book is “Lessons in flight and landing”, Einaudi), well-known Inter fan. Where did you see the last derby and what did you do in the end?
“At home, as always. Certain games are private property of the soul: fear and joy must circulate within you without swearing or screaming around. But then you call, chat until morning with all your friends ”.
What is “Interismo”, which you theorized, and how is it practiced? Above all: how do you practice if the team wins, given that it includes masochism among the “spiritual tendencies”?
“Interism is a continuous” village Saturday “, the lira that is missing to” make a million “. There is a beautiful God who taught us all the sacrificial mysteries of defeat, the ineluctable obsession to retrace it in the mind moment by moment , magically changing with the imagination a pole in the goal and a penalty not given in another marked. He taught us and then we never saw him again. We spread his word hoping that one day he will come back and also explain the mysteries euphoric of the victory, because for years we have understood little there ”.
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Good luck?
“All those possible and imaginable. Places, objects, clothes and formulas. Strong drive, magical-sympathetic: the night before the game is played ten to twenty times with your eyes closed, with the primitive certainty that the dream affects reality, obliges it to be as you want it. It almost never happens ”.
Better Lukaku or Ronaldo the Phenomenon, who is also in one of his songs (“I dreamed of living”)?
“Ronaldo. We have had formidable strikers from Boninsegna to Altobelli, from Crespo to Vieri, to Icardi, and, albeit briefly, the unattainable Rummenigge. Lukaku is on this level, Ronaldo has no equal: he was not from this land ”.
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Would you like a popular shareholding like in Barcelona? Also to redeem the company from Zhang. And does the Cottarelli project convince you?
“I have heard of this romantic adventure. We Inter fans have blogs and sites in common. We are on the border between suicidal idealism and utopia. I would feel in seventh heaven with an Inter of our own, but we should play in an imaginary championship, among imaginary clouds, where the dirty and bad reality turns into a fairy tale from “they lived happily ever after”. You see, we Interism sufferers travel to a parallel world where the right wins, the good has the last word, and that’s not the case ”.
Let’s repeat it for those unfamiliar with history: how was “Luci a San Siro” born?
“There were times when two boys in love could safely and fearlessly seclude themselves in a seventeenth century on a mound and kiss each other protected by the bulk of an illuminated stadium. Then there were other times when you said enough, you left the military and the world turned upside down. But the Inter fans are not let down by reality. It was enough to photograph her, that girl, in a song to make her eternal, as it was in those days, to stop that damned time in the moment of immutable beauty ”.
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What is the sound of a stadium without an audience?
“Like in an empty theater. Art, life, anything does not exist if it does not fly, it does not propagate, it is not intense. Objects have no life if we don’t name them. Music lost in the air is not music. Mass without faithful is a “pochade”. Soccer from afar is no longer a ritual, it apparently decays, it no longer descends from myth ”.
She loves words. What are your football favorites? Do you like contemporary formulas, such as “restart”, “construction from below”, “preventive”?
“The football terminology is all Anglo-Saxon, but by now we have got used to it. However, I find this frenzied fashion (or mania?) To theorize in scientific terms quite laughable what for Helenio Herrera was only “taca la bala” and for Nereo Rocco the parish priest was alive ”.
Is your favorite game the one you would like to forget?
“Madrid, there is none other than Madrid 2010. I took my four children with girlfriends and boyfriends to depend on. Bacchic and planetary night without constraints and restrictions: we went crazy like children in squares and streets competing to see who drank the most, in a completely unprofessional way. I don’t know how to choose the game to forget; I am uncertain between the very black Lazio-Inter 4-2 and the obbrobriosa Juve-Inter of the penalty denied to Ronaldo. But do you want to know something? After all, I don’t want to forget either of the two games. It is precisely those wounds that make you rejoice most when revenge arrives ”.
A few months ago he said: “A trainload of incompetent, incompetent and goal eaters”. But football is fickle and the ball has begun to enter. What happened and what happened?
“I think it’s the hurry under the net: Lukaku is not the genius of the“ tap-in ”, from standing in the air he tangles. Lautaro is instinctive, he does first and then he thinks. But in the long run, throw away here, throw away there, the account is in surplus. The league has changed because it is no longer played at home. Everywhere the psychological push for your team is deadly. Inter, outside the San Siro, suffered a lot. He has changed because instead of boarding, Inter waits and starts again. And again because they are all well and do not give up ”.
What do you like about this team?
“The choral spirit, being together, being united, defending one another. The habit, if anything, of blaming oneself. The determination of Barella and Lautaro, the patience of Eriksen and Brozovic, the unpredictability of Sanchez and then the exaggerated passion of Conte ”.
Football from the 1960s or today’s football is more beautiful?
“The Sixties all of life. For that romanticism and for the absence of unnecessary clamor, for the presence of real champions from Corso to Suarez. And above all because I was young, I didn’t have a penny and I climbed over the gates to see my Inter Milan ”.
He failed to make the Atalanta full-back, as he sings in “Gli anni”, but has he ever played football and in what role?
“It will surprise everyone, but I was playing goalkeeper and I wasn’t even bad. As a boy I liked the “exits” to Ghezzi, known as “Kamikaze” and then the role was in accord with my character, introverted and a little too solipsist. I played in the “National singers” and in Bologna, with the old glories of Bologna I took 5 goals, but I saved a penalty from Haller ”.
Do you have any shirts, photos, souvenir cards?
“I’m full of shirts, I don’t know where to put them anymore”.
Who would you like to meet, even past players?
“Being the President of the Inter club“ Roberto Vecchioni ”(1500 members!) I meet many of the champions of the past. The most frequent at convivial lunches are Boninsegna, Beccalossi, Bergomi, Toldo, Suarez … The most passionate and dear friend was Mario Corso. Mario was the first to call me when I won Sanremo, exactly 2 minutes later ”.
What do you remember of May 5, 2002?
“Alesia? What is Alesia? (da Asterix) ”.
Mourinho and the treble. The best season? Are you missing the phrases of the Portuguese effect, from “Zero tituli” to “I hear the noise of the enemies”, up to “I’m not an idiot”?
“Yes, but it was another era. At that time they galvanized, now perhaps, in the long run they would get bored, but what a pleasure “.
Conte needs to be re-evaluated?
“He had his share of bad luck, if Inter were now in the Champions League, with the current form he would break everything”.
Could you write an Nerazzurri song or sing it at the end of the season?
“May”.
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